Episode 133: The Brotherhood Crisis: Are Men Morally Obligated to Make Friends?

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In this thought-provoking episode of The Latter Day Lens, hosts Matt, Shawn, and newly-called Elders Quorum President Marc tackle some of today's most pressing questions about masculinity, friendship, and faith.

The Friendship Imperative

The conversation begins with a listener's observation about the importance of truly knowing individuals in church leadership rather than focusing solely on programs and numbers. This leads to a deeper discussion about whether men have a moral and religious obligation to cultivate friendships. Marc quotes Joseph Smith's teaching that "friendship is the grand principle of Mormonism," while Shawn references the biblical principle that "it is not good for man to be alone." The hosts explore why many married men rely too heavily on their wives for emotional support and the potential consequences this has for both marriages and society at large.

The Trust Crisis in America

The discussion shifts to examining why public confidence in institutions has plummeted to historic lows, with only small business, military, and science maintaining majority support. Shawn argues that capitalism and increased competition have led to partisan news sources that prioritize profit over objective reporting. Matt expresses concern about the dangers of losing faith in the institutions that keep society functioning, while the hosts debate whether this skepticism represents healthy accountability or dangerous cynicism toward necessary social structures.

Toxic Masculinity and the Gospel

Drawing from a disturbing Italian Facebook group case involving non-consensual sharing of intimate images, the hosts tackle the complex topic of toxic masculinity. They examine whether problematic masculine behaviors like the desire to dominate and control are biological or learned, and whether cultural interpretations of gospel principles might inadvertently contribute to unhealthy relationship dynamics. Matt shares personal struggles with his own parenting approaches, questioning whether different expectations for sons versus daughters reflect gospel teachings or cultural biases.

Consecration and Coercion

The episode concludes with a debate over Doctrine and Covenants 105 and whether the Lord intends for believers to implement the law of consecration through government policy or to work within existing legal frameworks. Shawn argues that true consecration requires voluntary covenant-making and cannot be achieved through compulsion, while Matt provocatively suggests that those with political power have an obligation to enforce God's will upon society. Marc takes a middle position, advocating for creating space where consecration can flourish while focusing individual discipleship on drawing closer to Christ rather than partisan politics.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Personal News
01:44 Engaging Young Men in Leadership
04:37 The Importance of Knowing Individuals
06:29 Friendship and Social Connections
11:33 The Role of Men in Building Friendships
14:30 Trust in News and Media
22:19 The Challenge of Bias in Journalism
22:45 The Complexity of Journalism and Bias
24:05 Trust in Institutions: A Growing Concern
27:11 Conservatism and the Preservation of Institutions
28:34 Toxic Masculinity: Definitions and Implications
37:44 The Role of the Gospel in Gender Dynamics
40:32 The Law of Consecration: A Societal Challenge
48:08 Politics, Partisanship, and the Pursuit of Christ