Julia speaks with Labour MP and Member of the Work and Pensions Select Committee, Steve McCabe, about 6 million furloughed workers breaking rules and working part time from home during lockdown. Minister for School Standards, Nick Gibb, tells Julia why missing school is worse than the virus for children. Douglas Murray discusses the release of the new paperback edition of his book, 'The Madness of Crowds,' with its update to include recent events.
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