In this episode ...
We sit down and talk with Cathy's daughter, Mackenzie, and Mackenzie's boyfriend, Sam.
These two have been hanging out together for more than two years and share deep-end-of-the-pool stories of their relationship, their challenges and their growth.
They also discuss their latest adventure: traveling the country getting to know themselves while fulfilling some wanderlust callings.
Oh ... and Mackenzie meets a Jackalope.
(If you have video capabilities with your podcast provider, you'll want to watch this one).
Recorded August 30, 2022