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The Hill: A Thieves Theatre Podcast - Podcast

The Hill: A Thieves Theatre Podcast

Artist/activists Nick Fracaro and Gabriele Schafer tell the story of their three years living in the “tipi on the hill,” by way of their radical alternative theater work leading up to it, their 40+ year creative partnership, and reflections on a life lived together at the intersection of art, culture, politics, and spirituality.

In the middle of the night in 1990, Nick and Gabriele covertly erected a replica of a Lakota tipi in the center of New York City’s longest-existing homeless encampment known as The Hill. The tipi was dedicated on the centenary of the Wounded Knee Massacre “in remembrance of the lives lost in 1890 and in recognition of the sovereignty and dignity of the most disenfranchised and forgotten members of our society a century later.

”The Hill traces the steps of how a shantytown went from the anonymity of waist-high huts hidden in the weeds to becoming a tour bus and celebrity stop; from addicts just getting by to a drug supermarket at the height of the AIDS crisis; from a close-knit community to a crime scene that entangles everyone when an arson fire kills the most innocent of them all. 

Thieves Theatre has been described as conceptual, guerilla, site-specific, experimental, avant-garde… Gabriele and Nick mostly describe their work as paratheatrical. In 2007, Thieves Theatre was renamed International Culture Lab to more accurately reflect their evolved mission.

#counterculture #indietheater #tepee #newyorkcityhistory #1990s #activism #socialjustice

For extensive documentation and to purchase the book, "The Hill": thievestheatre.org

Contact Nick and Gabriele: [email protected]

Follow at @tipionthehill

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every 7 days
Average duration
40 minutes
Episodes
24
Years Active
2023
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Ep 23: Goodbye... Until Timeless Spring

Ep 23: Goodbye... Until Timeless Spring

The end of the story. The story that never ends. 

Nick and Gabriele narrate their final days on The Hill, leading up to the day it was finally razed, and tell what they know about what happened to the…

00:58:41  |   Thu 21 Sep 2023
Ep 22: Psychotic Break/Hero’s Journey – Red Pill/Blue Pill?

Ep 22: Psychotic Break/Hero’s Journey – Red Pill/Blue Pill?

Plagued by grief and guilt, and estranged from everyone, including Gabriele, Nick wanders the streets hunting for Mister Lee’s murderer. Wearing his ghost shirt, he dances himself into trance-like st…

00:43:05  |   Thu 14 Sep 2023
Ep 21: Aftermath of the Arson/Murder

Ep 21: Aftermath of the Arson/Murder

Nick and Gabriele knew from all the articles written about it that the fire was designated as arson, but neither the press nor they were privy to any information as to how that was determined.  

Who c…

00:47:11  |   Thu 07 Sep 2023
Ep 20: Search for Absolution

Ep 20: Search for Absolution

We are coming toward the end of this story. A few more episodes and the events of the tipi in the shantytown will have been told. This episode will end with the murder of Mister Lee, followed by the …

00:51:58  |   Thu 31 Aug 2023
Ep 19: The Lost Cause

Ep 19: The Lost Cause

On the 101st anniversary Gabriele and Nick explore the site of the Wounded Knee Massacre and the adjacent landscape –– the sacred Black Hills of the Lakota –– seeking to find acceptance and support f…

00:43:48  |   Thu 24 Aug 2023
Ep 18: Until Death Calls My Name

Ep 18: Until Death Calls My Name

Gabriele and Nick examine the nature of memorials and gravesites. The tipi on The Hill was both a memorial commemorating the centenary of the Wounded Knee Massacre and a political statement about hom…

00:41:22  |   Thu 17 Aug 2023
Ep 17: Nick Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest

Ep 17: Nick Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest

Many years later, Nick begins to understand what motivated him – both to erect the tipi and to stay on The Hill after it became dangerous. 

He recounts a mental health crisis experienced upon returnin…

00:39:44  |   Thu 10 Aug 2023
Ep 16: The Drug Lord Brings Violence to The Hill

Ep 16: The Drug Lord Brings Violence to The Hill

By the summer of ‘91, less than seven months after putting up the tipi, The Hill’s character had changed dramatically. A drug dealer had infiltrated the tight-knit community that until then had felt …

00:47:14  |   Thu 03 Aug 2023
Ep 15: The American Indian Movement (AIM) Visits the Tipi

Ep 15: The American Indian Movement (AIM) Visits the Tipi

Nick and Gabriele talk about how split the Native American reaction was on them having erected a tipi as a memorial to the Wounded Knee Massacre. There were those who told them they had no right, and…

00:34:16  |   Thu 27 Jul 2023
Ep 14: Appropriation or Appreciation?

Ep 14: Appropriation or Appreciation?

Gabriele and Nick place their work on The Hill in a historical context of popular culture’s use of the terms “woke” and “cultural appropriation.”

They relate personal stories of growing up in their re…

00:41:27  |   Thu 20 Jul 2023
Ep 13: The War for Self-Representation Meets the Drug War

Ep 13: The War for Self-Representation Meets the Drug War

Four months before G & N arrived on The Hill, the New York Post came out with an article about the community entitled, “Squatter War Coming to ‘The Hill’.” The article turned out to be prescient.

The …

00:41:15  |   Thu 13 Jul 2023
Ep 12: The War for Self-Representation: The Media and The Hill

Ep 12: The War for Self-Representation: The Media and The Hill

In going through the journal gathering entries concerning The Hill’s relationship to the media, G & N also discovered evidence on how life on The Hill went from light to dark without them noticing.  

00:42:56  |   Thu 06 Jul 2023
Ep 11: Nick is arrested amid a high-profile NYC police corruption scandal

Ep 11: Nick is arrested amid a high-profile NYC police corruption scandal

One week after erecting the tipi, cops “Frick and Frack Fury” arrest Nick for taking a roll of linoleum from the edge of a construction site and charge him with burglary and criminal possession of st…

00:41:04  |   Thu 29 Jun 2023
Ep 10: The Geomancer and Mister Lee, Hermit and Ragman

Ep 10: The Geomancer and Mister Lee, Hermit and Ragman

The final two original core residents that greeted Nick and Gabriele when they arrived at The Hill were “The Chinese Man in the Back,” or as Nick referred to him, the Geomancer, and Mister Lee. They …

00:42:20  |   Thu 22 Jun 2023
Ep 9: Ascetics, Thieves, Foragers, Citizens – Part 5

Ep 9: Ascetics, Thieves, Foragers, Citizens – Part 5

Nick and Gabriele continue to profile their neighbors on The Hill, highlighting Tito and Woodsman Tony. They come to understand how the tipi has become a site where routines and everyday conversation…

00:39:52  |   Thu 15 Jun 2023
Ep 8: Ascetics, Thieves, Foragers, Citizens – Part 4

Ep 8: Ascetics, Thieves, Foragers, Citizens – Part 4

Nick and Gabriele continue to profile their neighbors on The Hill, highlighting “Chinese Jimmy,” Larry and Elaine. 

Jimmy was Chinese mob connected. The gangs extorting money from Chinatown business o…

00:36:51  |   Thu 08 Jun 2023
Ep 7: Ascetics, Thieves, Foragers, Citizens – Part 3

Ep 7: Ascetics, Thieves, Foragers, Citizens – Part 3

Nick and Gabriele continue to profile their neighbors on The Hill, highlighting the four brothers - Billy, Mike, Donald and Eddie - as well as Billy Toyota. 

The hierarchy on the Hill was never really…

00:38:46  |   Thu 01 Jun 2023
Ep 6: Ascetics, Thieves, Foragers, Citizens – Part 2

Ep 6: Ascetics, Thieves, Foragers, Citizens – Part 2

Nick and Gabriele continue to profile their neighbors on The Hill, highlighting Louie, Indian Jim, Ace, Juan, Sammy, and Lisa.  

Running partners Louie and Jim were the last of the “Bowery bums.” They…

00:29:26  |   Thu 25 May 2023
Ep 5: Ascetics, Thieves, Foragers, Citizens – Part 1

Ep 5: Ascetics, Thieves, Foragers, Citizens – Part 1

Nick and Gabriele profile their neighbors on The Hill, beginning with Ali, Red, and “the Chinese man in the back,” aka the Geomancer. 

Ali was the “keeper of the wrench,” and opened the corner fire hy…

00:35:33  |   Thu 18 May 2023
Ep 4: The World Premiere of Fassbinder's Trash, the City and Death, Theater of Scandal

Ep 4: The World Premiere of Fassbinder's Trash, the City and Death, Theater of Scandal

Thieves Theatre’s final significant production before the #tipionthehill was the controversial R. W. Fassbinder play, “Trash, the City and Death.”

Seven productions of the play were attempted, includi…

00:45:15  |   Thu 11 May 2023
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