Episode QS32: Deesha Philyaw + Kiese Laymon (January 7, 2021)

Deesha Philyaw discusses her already beloved fiction debut The Secret Lives of Church Ladies in a joy-filled conversation with her close friend, poet and memoirist Kiese Laymon.  While engaging with an enthusiastic virtual audience, the two authors discuss the challenges of the publishing world for Black writers -- especially when writing about pleasure, humor, and joy -- and about the potential for Black authors to offer gateways to one another. (Recorded October 28, 2020)