234: Patrick Kindlon (Drug Church / Self Defense Family): A Joy To Be Useful

This week Jeremy welcomes back Patrick Kindlon of the bands Drug Church and Self Defense Family.

On this episode, Jeremy and Patrick talk the city of Jakarta, foot massages, Vulture Feather, dungeon synth, solo records, Spotify streams, touring with Alkaline Trio, exploring Europe, the writing process, musical ambitions, the concept of time, and so much more!

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