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S2 E2: EBBS with Jake Leslie on preparing for the worst, hoping for the best, the perils of comparison, transitions and the essentials of the wackiest of adventures in fatherhood

Author
Jake Leslie, William Balme, The Ebbs and The Flows
Published
Mon 04 Dec 2023
Episode Link
https://the-ebbs-and-the-flows.simplecast.com/episodes/s2-e2-jake-leslie-on-preparing-for-the-worst-hoping-for-the-best-the-perils-of-comparison-transitions-and-the-essentials-of-the-wackiest-of-adventures-in-fatherhood-2CEpaTrQ

Jake Leslie joins The Ebbs and The Flows for episode 2 of Season 2 (number 12! We did it!!!) Jake is a strength and conditioning coach, sports therapist, lecturer across clubs such as the Western Bulldogs, the Melbourne Storm and the Melbourne Rebels, and a high performance coach at Optimus and The Hurt Locker, joins us as he is in transition, namely in work as he moves into medical device sales and in fatherhood. His effusive take on life is infectious with many great lessons from a life of embracing learning, consistency and showing up.

When I asked Jake to come on the podcast, it was on the back of conversations we would have about life lessons as he trained me in the gym. I found one of the powerful pulls to get him on EBBS was the contrast between our experience with mental health - mine complex and challenging with his seemingly more straightforward approach, however in this is his process. He works hard at getting the simple things right so he has a foundation to push forward with his career for his family. His record with clients and clubs is exemplary, and his focus on self-improvement and the improvement of those around him is inspiring. We go deep here - into areas Jake hasn't explored for a while, and the rewards are in an episode I am most proud of.  

As always, this episode includes segments such as 'A Note to Self', 'Work in Progress' and 'Weird Fishes', and 'The Art of The List', which features four things Jake has learnt about the notion of self-improvement and one thing he is still striving for, and 'ME AND THE WORLD ON A PAGE'. His note to self is a motivational push to 18-20 year old Jake. A brief overview of the time marks are:

11:20 - The 90 Second Nugget
14:30 - The Art of the List 
18ish - The Power and the Process 
33:20 - ME AND THE WORLD ON A PAGE.
45.40 - A Note to Self
49.30 - Weird Fishes

The Ebbs and the Flows is an emotional health movement focused on openness and transparency about the light and the shade of the lives we led and journeys we encounter. The Ebbs and the Flows is not a licensed mental health service and therefore if you are seeking mental health advice, assessment or treatment, you should seek expert advice with a GP, psychologist, psychiatrist or call Lifeline on 13 11 14.

For The Ebbs and The Flows Instagram page head to https://www.instagram.com/theebbsandtheflows/

Weird Fishes:
Film: Pulp Fiction 
Book: The Book of Why - Judea Pearl and Dana Mackenzie and The Orchard and The Dandelion by W Thomas Boyce
Album/Artist: Kid Cudi - Man on The Moon I and II
Local Recommendation: Kekou in Richmond and Ink Cup in Doncaster East

At the end of the day, we are all just a work in progress.


The Ebbs and the Flows is an emotional health movement focused on openness and transparency about the light and the shade of the lives we led and journeys we encounter. The Ebbs and the Flows is not a licensed mental health service and therefore if you are seeking mental health advice, assessment or treatment, you should seek expert advice with a GP, psychologist, psychiatrist or in a crisis, call Lifeline on 13 11 14.

For those struggling, or who know somebody who is, help is available:

@lifelineaustralia 13 11 14

@beyondblueofficial 1300 22 4636

1800-RESPECT (1800 737 732)

@headspace_aus 1800 650 890

@kidshelplineau 1800 55 1800

For advice specific to Aboriginal and Torres Strait islander people @13yarn 13 92 76

For LGBTQIA+ specific advice @qlife_aus

1800 184 527

The Ebbs and The Flows website: www.theebbsandtheflows.com
Substack: https://substack.com/@theebbsandtheflows 

For The Ebbs and The Flows Instagram page head to https://www.instagram.com/theebbsandtheflows/

At the end of the day, we are all just a work in progress.

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