#30 with Madeleine Thornton-Smith: Fighting for the rights of precarious workers, solidarity forever, searching for more equitable and safer systems and why the arts are so vital to culture.

It's our thirtieth episode! And we want our fair share! How come artists and creatives are so often undervalued for their contribution to culture and society? Madeleine Thornton-Smith is an artist, a ceramicist, an art teacher and an activist fighting for fair conditions for creatives and artists across creative industries. She is passionate about the simplicity yet astounding power of what artists can produce, and how much more can be done to support their work and guarantee their emotional and physical safety at work and at home.

Join Madeleine and William for a winding conversation about the creative arts, with so many tidbits and takeaways for those looking to learn more about the challenging lay of the land... as well as chatting about what makes Madeleine tick and why she is so passionate about her work, as well as her former work as a carer for those with disabilities, and why Ten Things I Hate About You is the film she cherishes most.

Weird Fishes:
Album and film: Ten Things I Hate About You and its accompanying soundtrack.
Book: A book about Glazers - The artists... I think?
Local Recommendation: Samurai in Hawthorn

Check out Madeleine's work at @realjobexhibition

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