Dr. Beverly Yahnke, Executive Director for Christian Counsel for DOXOLOGY — The Lutheran Center for Spiritual Care and Counsel, join Andy and Sarah to talk about the challenges that church workers typically face, how these challenges are different among different vocations, the great need for respite and care for pastors and commissioned workers, the experiences people have at Take Heart Retreats, and why these retreats are so important. Learn about upcoming Take Heart Retreats at doxology.us/take-heart.