In Episode 68 of The Chief Exchange Podcast, Chief Tony Haden of Pedernales Fire Department joins Alec to talk about building culture from the ground up—one relationship at a time. From his early days dreaming of ESPN to leading a department in central Texas, Chief Haden opens up about the struggles and strategies of becoming a modern fire service leader.
You’ll hear insights on the difference between “can’t” and “won’t,” how to build a team that trusts and performs, and why ownership can either serve your mission—or sink your morale. If you care about culture, trust, and leading with clarity, this one’s for you.