In Episode 22 of The Chief Exchange Podcast, Deputy Chief Patrick Fale from Tualatin Valley Fire & Rescue, OR, joins host Alec Wons for an enlightening conversation. Chief Fale delves into the nuances of fast and slow brain thinking in decision-making, explains why culture trumps strategy, and shares his perspective on how 'bad news' can actually be 'good news.' He also discusses the key components of health and wellness that Chiefs should focus on in their departments and explores the differences between policy and people problems. Don’t miss this episode filled with invaluable insights and leadership lessons.