#2 The Future of Data Leadership - Joseph Aoun - Chalhoub Group & Apgar

Data leadership is at a turning point—are we ready for what’s next?

Joseph Aoun is the Data & AI Solutions Director at Apgar, a global data management & AI group.

He describes himself as a "Data-Powered Digital Business Transformation Leader"—and that says it all.

With 15+ years of experience in data and digital, he spent the last 7 years at Chalhoub Group, where he played a key role in building and scaling one of the most advanced data and AI teams in the region.

He is also one of the most passionate and insightful leaders I know in Dubai.

In our conversation, we explored:

• The role of the Chief Data Officer: How is it evolving? Is hiring one a no-brainer? If yes, where should they sit in the organization?
• The importance of strategic patience in AI adoption
• What makes an AI product fail
• The central role of humans and talent in AI

Thank you Joseph for your time and for sharing your perspective on these burning topics!

Episode Breakdown:

00:00:00 Introduction

00:00:26 Career journey

00:04:11 The role of a CDO and organizational structure

00:14:09 The Impact of AI on data leadership

00:17:12 Building a data organization from Scratch

00:22:49 Scaling Data Initiatives in large Enterprises

00:26:17 Measuring AI & Data maturity

00:32:08 Ensuring business adoption of AI

00:41:28 Preparing organizations for the AI era

00:49:39 Attracting & retaining data talents

00:55:09 Final takeaways

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