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086. From Chaos to Consistency: Lessons from a Decade of Agile Lawyering with Jeff De Francisco

Author
John E. Grant
Published
Tue 09 Sep 2025
Episode Link
https://community.agileattorney.com/chaos-consistency-lessons-decade-agile-lawyering-jeff-de-francisco

When Jeff De Francisco noticed his less tech-savvy colleagues billing more hours for the same estate planning work, he uncovered an injustice that would reshape his entire practice. The disparity wasn't about knowledge or skill. It was about efficiency, and the billable hour was punishing him for being good at his job.

In this episode, I sit down with Jeff, a long-time client and now business partner, to explore his decade-long journey with Agile practices. You’ll also hear lessons from Jeff’s journey that you can apply to your own law practice - and get a peek at how tools like Greenline Legal can support your systems along the way.

Get full show notes, transcript, and more information here: https://www.agileattorney.com/86

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