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Explorer #18: The Rise and Fall of ISIS, with Pulitzer Prize-winning author Joby Warrick

Author
Aznaur Midov
Published
Mon 15 Jan 2024
Episode Link
https://theaccentpodcast.libsyn.com/explorer-18-the-rise-and-fall-of-isis-with-pulitzer-prize-winning-author-joby-warrick

Joby Warrick is a best-selling author and a national security correspondent for The Washington Post. A two-time Pulitzer Prize winner, he served for 24 years with the Post’s national and investigative staffs, reporting from Washington and scores of cities around the world. He is the author of three two nonfiction books, including “The Triple Agent”, a New York Times best-seller about a CIA operation in Afghanistan; "Red Line", and “Black Flags”, a narrative account of the personalities and events that gave rise to the Islamic State. “Black Flags” was listed as one of the best books of 2015 by the New York Times, The Washington Post, the San Francisco Chronicle, and numerous other publications, and it was the recipient of the 2016 Pulitzer Prize for general non-fiction.

BOOKs: 

Black Flags: https://amzn.to/3QE46NK

The Triple Agent: https://amzn.to/49zq5On

Red Line: https://amzn.to/3FYaLxo

 

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TIMESTAMPS 

01:35 The most surprising thing about ISIS 

03:30 Abu Musab al-Zarqawi 

06:45 Afghanistan after the Soviet Union 

08:00 Zarqawi in al-Jafr prison 

10:05 Abu Muhammad al-Maqdisi 

13:00 Al-Qaida of Iraq, and Zarqawi’s weaponization of religion 

17:30 Black Flags 

20:00 The US invasion of Iraq 

28:00 Big pause after Zarqawi 

31:50 Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, and the Rise of ISIS 

38:00 A typical ISIS Fighter 

40:30 New ISIS 

43:10 Roots of Islamic Radicalization 

47:00 Joby’s books 

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