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That's What She Shed - Podcast

That's What She Shed

That’s What She Shed is your inside peek at life, leadership, and laughter inside Sherman Pole Buildings — where we raise more than just walls. Join hosts Beth Kelling and Ryan Gunderson as they swap stories from the field and the office, exploring what it really takes to lead in a family business and a male-dominated industry.


From bold morning meetings to big building wins (and the occasional barnyard blunder), Beth and Ryan dig into the gritty, honest, and often hilarious side of working at Sherman.


If you love stories about showing up, speaking up, and building something that lasts — all told with plenty of straight talk and a shed-full of humor — you’ll feel right at home here.


Come for the quality erections. Stay for the quality conversations.


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every 6 days
Average duration
31 minutes
Episodes
20
Years Active
2025
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Leadership in the Eye of the Storm - Brandon

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00:57:43  |   Sun 03 Aug 2025
Leading by Example: Conversations with a Project Manager

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00:15:57  |   Sun 27 Jul 2025
The Barndo Boss: Turning Wood Piles into Life Lessons - Brad Hippen

The Barndo Boss: Turning Wood Piles into Life Lessons - Brad Hippen

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00:59:45  |   Sun 20 Jul 2025
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Introducing Our New Co-Host: Ryan Gunderson Joins That's What She Shed

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00:42:47  |   Sun 06 Jul 2025
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Stepping into the underground world of government secrets and nuclear fallout preparations, this episode features Julie, whose career journey reads like a spy thriller before landing her in HR at She…

00:26:27  |   Sun 29 Jun 2025
Dirty Yard Dirty Attitude with Dave

Dirty Yard Dirty Attitude with Dave


Meet Dave, a 13-year veteran whose journey from the yard to the office provides a fascinating window into the company's operations. His meticulous approach to bundle preparation—what colleagues have …

00:10:45  |   Sun 22 Jun 2025
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00:26:06  |   Sun 15 Jun 2025
From Door Installations to Sales: A Woman's Journey in Construction

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Meet Jess, the first female guest on "That's What She Said," who brings refreshing insights from her journey in the construction industry. Starting as an overhead door installer and now working in sa…

00:13:49  |   Mon 09 Jun 2025
Selling Happiness - Steve Kelling

Selling Happiness - Steve Kelling

Ever wondered what it's like to build a family business that spans generations? Steve Kelling, CEO of Sherman Buildings, pulls back the curtain on fifty years of leadership in a refreshingly candid c…

00:21:16  |   Sun 01 Jun 2025
Leadership, Lumber, and Life Lessons from Andrew Walsh

Leadership, Lumber, and Life Lessons from Andrew Walsh

Leadership lessons often emerge from unexpected places, and in this engaging conversation with Andrew Walsh, we discover wisdom from the lumber yard at Sherman Buildings. Andrew, who works in the mec…

00:12:24  |   Sun 25 May 2025
Something Worth Building - Andrew Kelling

Something Worth Building - Andrew Kelling

What happens when you build a business by deliberately running toward the things that scare you most? Andrew Kelling, founder of Sherman Buildings and my father, reveals the counterintuitive philosop…

00:13:53  |   Sun 18 May 2025
From Homeschool to Crew Manager: Isaac Maser's Leadership Journey

From Homeschool to Crew Manager: Isaac Maser's Leadership Journey

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00:20:53  |   Sun 18 May 2025
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00:19:42  |   Sun 18 May 2025
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