Joan Sutherland talks with Tui Raven, Senior Manager Indigenous Program and Karla Coutts, Lecturer in the Faculty of SEBE Learning Innovation team in a discussion about the Guide for Curriculum Design for First Nations Science. The episode emphasizes the importance of including Indigenous knowledge into science education, highlighting the guide's development process, which involved diverse educators and Indigenous knowledge holders across Australia. This collaboration ensures the guide is both inclusive and practical, aiming to transform the educational experience for Indigenous and non-Indigenous students by fostering a holistic view of science and a respectful, inclusive educational environment.