On this episode i talk with my pal Art. He lives in Boston and plays in a heavy dirty sounding band called Diva Karr, and then has a noise project Uttered In Tongues. We became friends through the project i am involved in called MidwestLust. We were supposed to play Boston on last tour and Art hooked it up. But it never happened because of pandemic. But anyways we talk bands and projects he is involved in. Oh and just all the rituals of life so enjoy.