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Dirty Revenue Is Killing Your Business | Stephen Steers (Steers Consulting)

Author
Marcos Rivera
Published
Wed 11 Jun 2025
Episode Link
https://street-pricing-with-marcos-rivera.castos.com/episodes/dirty-revenue-is-killing-your-business

In this episode of the Street Pricing podcast, Marcos Rivera and Stephen Steers delve into the intricacies of sales, focusing on how founders can transition out of day-to-day sales roles while enhancing conversion rates. They discuss the importance of reducing friction in sales processes, the necessity of proper discovery to understand client needs, and the innovative approach of qualifying out potential clients to ensure a better fit. The conversation emphasizes the value of listening to sales calls and utilizing frameworks to improve sales effectiveness. In this conversation, Stephen Steers and Marcos Rivera discuss the importance of building trust in sales through clear deliverables and patience. They explore the role of AI in sales, emphasizing that while it can be a useful tool, it should not replace the human element in building relationships. The discussion highlights key strategies for increasing conversion rates and the significance of maintaining a strong reputation in business.


 


CHAPTERS


00:00 Introduction to Sales Mastery


03:01 The Art of Firing Yourself from Sales


06:01 Reducing Friction in Sales


09:00 The Importance of Discovery in Sales


12:05 Qualifying Out: A New Approach


15:05 Listening to Your Sales Calls


18:01 Frameworks for Increasing Conversion Rates


20:57 Building Trust Through Deliverables


24:31 The Importance of Patience in Sales


29:07 AI in Sales: A Double-Edged Sword


34:10 Key Takeaways for Sales Success


 


TAKEAWAYS



  • Firing yourself from sales allows founders to focus on growth.

  • Reducing friction in the sales process increases conversions.

  • Trust is built through consistent actions and communication.

  • Proper discovery is essential for understanding client needs.

  • Qualifying out clients can lead to better business relationships.

  • Listening to sales calls provides valuable insights for improvement.

  • Sales objections can be categorized into three main types.

  • Packaging offers in a low-risk manner boosts initial engagement.

  • Sales frameworks can streamline the selling process.

  • Continuous learning from past sales interactions is crucial. Instead of going straight for a retainer, start with a smaller project.

  • Clarity in what clients will receive increases conversion rates.

  • Building trust takes time and patience.

  • AI can be a useful tool but should not replace human interaction.

  • Sales success relies on understanding client needs and delivering value.

  • Recording and reviewing sales calls can improve performance.

  • Establishing a clear process helps clients understand the journey.

  • Long-term thinking is essential for sustainable business growth.

  • Trust is built through consistent and reliable interactions.

  • Patience is a skill that can be developed over time.


 


RESOURCES:
Stephen Steers LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stephen-steers/
Steers Consulting Group: https://www.stephensteers.com/
Marcos Rivera LinkedIn  https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcoslrivera/
Marcos Rivera X  https://x.com/PRICINGIO
Pricing I/O  https://www.pricingio.com/
Street Pricing Book: https://a.co/d/hlMzaM3
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Welcome to Street Pricing, the only show where proven SaaS (Software as a Service) leaders share their mindset and mistakes in pricing so we can all stop guessing and start growing. Street Pricing is hosted by Pricing I/O CEO and Pricing Coach, Marcos Rivera, sought after slayer of bad pricing. With 20 years of pricing expertise, he has helped price over 200 SaaS products and coached over 100 SaaS CEOs and counting! From the streets of the Bronx to CEO, Marcos wants to take the guesswork out of pricing.

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