I’m talking with Mitch Ishmael, founder of Active Energy Systems. His invention helps building owners lower their energy bills and improve cooling resiliency through low-cost, high-efficiency thermal storage for air conditioning. We talk about recently getting a Department of Energy SBIR (Small Business Innovation Research) award, participating in the Innovation Crossroads program at Oak Ridge National Laboratory, pitching to investors, and the recent opportunity for deep focus because of the pandemic. Mitch is reading Ducks, Newburyport and listening to the 538 podcast.