We put ourselves into the corral of either-or. I say don’t give me either-or questions unless you’re really clear about the need to do it that way. Im not doing away with that aspect of consciousness; the tendency to be selective is very seductive. Don’t take a position or reject the one that arises right in front of you. The conclusion is just a sidetrack. Stop looking for proof of things; this is the very circularity of samsara.
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