No Attainment - 04-107-24 with Sokuzan - sokukoji.org

We can do both; have a life and a family, and be a fully ordained monk. The reason I say it this way is so we don’t confuse the mundane with the spiritual path. The important thing on the spiritual path is to just intend. The goal that I recommend is to see the truth yourself.
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