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How Spirit Entities Shape Human Affairs | Vanese McNeill

Author
Gordon White
Published
Thu 04 Sep 2025
Episode Link
http://podcast.runesoup.com/how-spirit-entities-shape-human-affairs-vanese-mcneill

Vanese McNeill, co-producer of the Magical Egypt series, returns to the show. In this episode, we explore the hows and possible whys of spirit involvement in history, from the super-elite level down to the everyday. And also across to some of the sillier claims about AI floating in the air like so many plasma entities.

And all of this was inspired by a post Vanese wrote on the Magical Egypt substack about ontozoology back in June.

So that’s where we begin, and this is where we go after:

1. The Ontozoology Framework

  • What invisible beings actually exist in the ecosystem

  • Moving beyond Christian binary (demons vs. angels) to animist complexity

  • The difference between malevolent, benevolent, and simply non-human agendas

2. Catherine Austin Fitts & Demonic Capital

  • The exact quote about interdimensional intelligences controlling capital

  • Why this is being discussed now by credible people

  • The problem with oversimplifying complex entities as "Satan"

3. Conscious vs. Unconscious Elite Collaboration

  • How much is deliberate ritual worship vs. unconscious possession

  • The decline of magical literacy among modern elites

  • Why materialist worldviews make people more vulnerable to influence

4. Historical Magic & Modern Mind Control

  • Ancient Egyptian spirit relationships as information exchange

  • How modern "operations" are rituals without the practitioners knowing it

  • Predictive programming as contemporary magic

5. The AI & Slop Demon Problem

  • Why "The Architect" and similar AIs aren't sentient but are dangerous

  • How AI creates mental conditions ripe for spiritual colonisation

  • The difference between AI hosting demons vs. AI making minds available for possession

6. UFOs, Aliens, and Interdimensional Beings

  • The reframing of UFO phenomena as spiritual rather than extraterrestrial

  • Catherine's invitation to meet "aliens in human bodies"

  • Distinguishing between visiting organisms and native invisible ecology

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