If you want to really know God you must be wiling to embrace his kindness and his severity.
The problem in our world today is void of the fear of God.
Although I didn't quote this passage in the podcast, I should have.
Romans 11:20-23 (LSB) 20 Quite right! They were broken off for their unbelief, but you stand by your faith. Do not be haughty, but fear, 21 for if God did not spare the natural branches, He will not spare you, either. 22 Behold then the kindness and severity of God; to those who fell, severity, but to you, God’s kindness, if you continue in His kindness; otherwise you also will be cut off. 23 And they also, if they do not continue in their unbelief, will be grafted in, for God is able to graft them in again.