When It All Goes to Hell: Insights from a CIA Counterterrorism Operator with Jeff Banman

In this enlightening conversation, Michael Ostrolenk talks with Jeff Banman, author of "When It All Goes to Hell: Thoughts on Chaos and Crisis from a CIA Counterterrorism Operator." Banman shares his unique insights drawn from his diverse career experiences as a firefighter, Army Ranger, and CIA operative. He discusses his approach to human performance in high-stress situations, the importance of understanding our intuitive guidance systems, and how to prepare for chaos and crisis in everyday life.

Timestamps: 00:00 - Introduction and background of Jeff Banman

05:30 - Jeff's career path and development of interest in human performance

09:00 - Discussion on finding purpose in every moment and reflection

14:00 - Introduction to the Three C's: Comfort, Confidence, and Creativity

20:00 - Explanation of the SAFE mechanism

27:00 - Discussion of the Intuitive Guidance System

34:00 - The importance of trust in oneself and how it gets eroded

36:45 - The role of the rational mind in crisis situations

41:30 - Closing thoughts and where to find Jeff's book

Resources: Book: "When It All Goes to Hell: Thoughts on Chaos and Crisis from a CIA Counterterrorism Operator" by Jeff Banman and Drew Williams 

Social Media: @AnchorDad on all platforms Amazon: Book available for purchase