Heartland Politics: Governing Central Java (with Gov Ganjar Pranowo)

The province that arguably constitutes Indonesia's political heartland gave rise to the current president as well as a potential successor: Gov Ganjar Pranowo, who joins the podcast to delve into the management of his giant region - including the pandemic, welfare, investment, the environment, and governance. Also: Kevin and Jeff examine a failed waste-to-energy project and a grandiose defense procurement proposal.

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