Tawny and Lisa chat with Celeste Yvonne, author of It’s Not About the Wine: The Loaded Truth About Mommy Wine Culture. She is a certified sober coach (IAPRC) with over 20 years of experience as a communications professional in corporate America. Her writing has been featured in The Washington Post, Good Morning America, The Wall Street Journal, and others. Celeste is founding host of the Sober Mom Squad and advocates for mothers who struggle with addiction and mental health. Music Minute features Taylor Swift. Find Celeste on her website and order It’s Not About the Wine here. This episode is sponsored by Soberlink's commitment to accountability for folks in recovery. Request an exclusive $50 off promo code by visiting: www.soberlink.com/recovery-rocks Pre-Order Tawny’s book, Dry Humping: A Guide to Dating, Relating, and Hooking Up Without the Booze Subscribe to Tawny’s sober dating & relationships advice column "Beyond Liquid Courage" Purchase Lisa’s memoir, Girl Walks Out of a Bar