Overcome imposter syndrome by unsquashing yourself - Carrying on the conversation: Trisha Lewis

Showing up isn't always easy.

And sometimes we find it much more comfortable to reduce the chances of feeling judgement and shame by holding back.

And that's not good for anybody.

And it's exactly why it's important for us to work on 'unsquashing' ourselves so we can bring our gifts to the world. 

Wendy's recently been working extra hard on unsquashing herself, and this is being reflected in the information and tips she's sharing with listeners.

She's owning her gift for using conversations to change lives and businesses.

In this edition of "Carrying On The Conversation" Wendy and producer Neal reflect back on the recent episode which featured communication coach, Trisha Lewis.

Oh, and if you check out her page on the website, you'll get access to a free guide to showing up in your best self on Linkedin.

If you prefer reading, scroll down for the full transcript. 

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[00:00:00] Wendy: Trisha Lewis the Queen of the unsquashed.

[00:00:05] Neal: I do love that. I do love that. it is true. What you said in the conversation about that makes absolutely no sense, but it makes perfect sense when you know what it's talking about.

[00:00:16] So communication coaching, essentially.

[00:00:19] Wendy: Yeah. I mean the, the boring version versus the 'Impact' version. So yeah, communication coach versus "UNSQUASHABLE!" And I think Trisha has a really good insight on the awareness of what holds us back in conversation and even demonstrated it herself by messaging me the day before, because she'd had that minor operation on her face and her nose.

[00:00:52] So I think it was a really important message that even she sometimes squashes herself because she was thinking outside of herself. And I was like, no, actually I want to know all about what happened with your nose. And let's flip this into a positive so that we can give a positive message about staying safe in the sun.

[00:01:20] And she was up for it. And I think it really worked and demonstrated kind of what we all go through. Even when we're experts. We can still second guess ourselves.

[00:01:34] Neal: Hence why you need someone on the outside to be your cheerleader and just say, you know what? You should be feeling a bit more confident about what you bring to the table, because it's really interesting.

[00:01:47] I once knew somebody that was on the face of it incredibly arrogant.

[00:01:53] Wendy: Did she have a big nose too.

[00:01:58] Neal: No, he, he didn't have a big nose. That was one of the things he didn't have that was big. But the ego, I mean, on the face of it, he had a massive ego and he once turned around to somebody. And I overheard this conversation and somebody had essentially accused him of being arrogant and he turned around and he said, no, It's only arrogance, if you can't back it up.

[00:02:21] And part of me thought, oh, but actually in line with what Trisha's teachings are actually he's unsquashed himself and he's being an unapologetic about it. So at what point, does it stop being egotistical, arrogant, fool? And at what point does it become no actually unsquashing himself, which I found fascinating to consider and ponder.

[00:02:46] Did a lot of pondering on that.

[00:02:47] Wendy: Yeah, it's that awareness, isn't it. And, Trisha goes on to talk about the conscious choices that we need to make in order to be seen and to be heard and that was something that, you know, she got me thinking, cause sometimes you just kind of run out of steam on an idea.

[00:03:08] and I know you and I have talked about, you know, personal branding, and to me, it's just who you are at that time. And that grows and changes. And I think it does also come back to who you surround yourself with. I mean, Trisha talks about that community, you know, that you are the media, the John Esperians previous, you know, activists, Janine, Coombs, going on about feminism and stuff like that.

[00:03:36] it's just fascinating that it really just, it brought up a whole heap of fresh curiosity for me. To revisit what I was stuck on.... it's not that I'm stuck ever to communicate, but what I really want to communicate. It's that importance and purpose of it, rather than just doing it for doing its sake.

[00:04:06] So she's helped me. She won't know. I'll have to tell her.