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"Humans Evolved as Ultimate Context Machines": A Conversation with Dr. Robert Engels, head of AI Futures Lab at Capgemini, on the Future of Generative AI

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Podcasts 4 Brainport
Published
Mon 13 Jan 2025
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https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/podcasts-4-brainport/episodes/Humans-Evolved-as-Ultimate-Context-Machines-A-Conversation-with-Dr--Robert-Engels--head-of-AI-Futures-Lab-at-Capgemini--on-the-Future-of-Generative-AI-e2tetp1

On the Radio 4 Brainport podcast Podcasts 4 Brainport, host Iman Mossavat engages Robert Engels, Head of AI Futures Lab at Capgemini, in a discussion on the role of context and abstraction in AI. With 36 years of experience, Engels examines why current generative AI systems, like GPT-4, excel at tasks yet fail in complex, real-world settings.




Robert argues, “Two things are underperforming in the world of generative AI—abstraction and logical reasoning.” Robert underscores the need for AI to adopt a world model akin to philosophical reasoning: "Plato and Socrates understood this when they built logics—they looked at the world and tried to grasp its principles."

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