Episode 5: Apply Yourself / Personal Devices

In this episode hosts Casey Ellis and Patrick Vollmer are joined by musician Russ Levitt. Part one has the guys discussing a life in which every few years you have to re-apply with the government to continue to exist. Things get personal in part two when the discussion switches to a future where every device from your phone to your toilet has A.I. and its own personality. If you cannot see the audio controls, your browser does not support the audio element