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Navigating trust, governance, and the human element in the age of AI

Author
Theodora Lau
Published
Mon 25 Aug 2025
Episode Link
https://shows.acast.com/one-vision/episodes/navigating-trust-governance-and-the-human-element-in-the-age

In this episode of One Vision, we welcome Tony Fish, author of 'Decision Making in Uncertain Times', for a deep dive into the complexities of corporate governance in the age of data and AI. 


Tony shares his unique perspective on corporate governance, the importance of asking the right questions, and the role of human elements like trust and empathy in technology. As he urged us,  we have to find a way, through love, hope, and faith, to counterbalance everything else that's going on through things which are deeply human. It’s a must-listen (and must-watch) for thinkers, technologists, and business leaders alike.



🔥Hot take: “ In our drive for efficiency, we lose efficacy.”


Tune in to Apple Podcast, Spotify, and YouTube for the full conversation. 



00:00 Introduction and Guest Welcome

00:44 Tony Fish's Writing Journey

01:45 Corporate Governance of Data

04:16 Open vs. Closed Governance

06:43 Challenges in Modern Governance

08:19 AI and the Future of Human Agency

12:43 Accountability and Security in AI

18:05 Asking the Right Questions

26:57 The Role of Trust and Empathy


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Find Tony Fish on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tonyfish/ 

🔗About Tony’s book, Decision Making in Uncertain Times: https://a.co/d/5K1XKcM 


Find Theodora Lau on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/theodoralau/ 

🔗My latest book: Banking on (Artificial) Intelligence: https://www.bankingonaibook.com/ 

🔗About Unconventional Ventures and the One Vision Podcast: https://www.unconventionalventures.com/


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