In this episode, host Shikha Jain, MD, speaks with Cardinal Health’s Parisa Asgarisabet, PhD and Scott Swain, PhD, MPH about benefits and uses of real-world evidence, the issue of diversity in clinical trials and more. • Welcome to another exciting episode of Oncology Overdrive 1:11 • About Swain 1:26 • About Asgarisabet 2:45 • The interview 3:30 • About Swain and how you ended up at Cardinal Health 3:50 • About Asgarisabet’s journey and how she ended up at Cardinal Health 5:09 • What is Cardinal Health and why should people know about the work they are doing? 6:37 • How is the work Cardinal Health is doing directly applicable to practicing oncologists? 7:30 • Jain, Asgarisabet, and Swain on Representation of age, race and ethnicity in real-world evidence (RWE), randomized clinical trial (RCT), and Surveillance, Epidemiology, and End Results (SEER) cancer patient registry data in advanced renal cell carcinoma (aRCC). 10:32 • How can we scale real world data in a bigger way and make this the standard as opposed to the exception? 14:02 • Jain and Swain on diversity, equity, and inclusion in the clinical trials design space 17:57 • Asgarisabet and Swain on the economic implications of a lack of diversity in clinical trials 19:53 • Swain and Jain on the importance of community engagement and outreach in achieving diversity of backgrounds in clinical trials 24:42 • What do you think are the next steps to implement real world data in order to make a larger impact? 27:38 • Should real world data be used in concert with randomized controlled trials or should this data be used independently? 29:02 • When we talk about these types of transformation in how we look at diseases and deciding the best plan of action, do you anticipate there being a challenge with insurance companies approving treatments using real world data? 30:27 • If someone could only listen to the last two minutes of this episode, what would you want them to take away? 35:18 • How to contact Swain and Asgarisabet 37:57 • Thanks for listening 39:13
Scott Swain, PhD, MPH is a Director of Regulatory Science and Real-world Evidence with Cardinal Health. Parisa Asgarisabet, PhD is a Lead statistician in the Real-World Evidence & Insights team at Cardinal Health.
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