We hate each other really (with Kate Humble)

Jane and Fi have snacked their way through the day and are ready to talk about matching chocolate to your mood, swanning about in a slip, and Fi's past life as a vicar...

They're joined by Springwatch presenter Kate Humble to talk about her new book 'Where the Hearth Is'.

And we've got a podcast exclusive interview with The Times' Lucy Bannerman about her recently taxidermied tortoise.

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Assistant Producer: Kate Lee

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