It's NOT a pie

Jane and Fi have swanned off on holiday, so Chloe Tilley and Calum Macdonald are here to hold down the fort for the last time before their return on Monday.

They're joined by Dr. Maggie Aderin-Pocock, space scientist and science communicator.

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Assistant Producer: Kate Lee

Times Radio Producer: Rosie Cutler

Podcast Executive Producer: Ben Mitchell

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