Is there ANYTHING good about our lives? (with Mary Beard)

Dancing over the fog-horn testing centre, Jane and Fi are covering about a 'billionty' other topics, from eating marmalade straight from the jar, and the state of the toilets at London Euston Station.

Jane and Fi are joined by the classicist Mary Beard, to discuss the paperback edition of her latest bestseller 'Emperor of Rome'

Our next book club pick has been announced! 'Missing, Presumed' is by Susie Steiner.

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Assistant Producer: Kate Lee

Podcast Producer: Eve Salusbury

Executive Producer: Rosie Cutler

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