Incredibly strategic vaping by a cardinal (with Fern Britton)

Jane and Fi have some buzzwords and clichés lined up for tonight, so enjoy those if you're not already sick of them. They also reflect on Errol Musk, share cucumber anecdotes and discuss a film they've been to see...

Plus, presenter Fern Britton discusses her memoir 'The Older I Get...: How I repowered my life'.

Our next book club pick has been announced! 'The Trouble with Goats and Sheep' by Joanna Cannon.

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Podcast Producer: Eve Salusbury

Executive Producer: Rosie Cutler

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