His fifth wife must be an optimistic soul...

Jane and Fi are back from covering election night and they are ready to debrief. Today's episode will scratch your plumbing itch and make sure you hold on for the abattoir!

And they are joined by Countryfile presenter, Tom Heap, to chat about his new book, 'Land Smart'.

Our next book club pick has been announced! 'Missing, Presumed' is by Susie Steiner.

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Assistant Producer: Hannah Quinn

Podcast Producer: Eve Salusbury

Executive Producer: Rosie Cutler

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