But Princess Anne never did sidesaddle! (with Ashley John-Baptiste)

Jane is reflecting on her upcoming birthday and Fi has some hard truths about the milestone... They also chat riding sidesaddle, cruises and retirement plans.

Plus, Fi speaks to BBC reporter Ashley John-Baptiste about his memoir 'Looked After: A Childhood in Care'.

Our next book club pick has been announced! 'Missing, Presumed' is by Susie Steiner.

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Podcast Producer: Eve Salusbury

Executive Producer: Rosie Cutler

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