A wee of almost bovine quantities (with Miriam Margolyes)

The festive season is staggering towards us, and Jane and Fi are staggering with it. Not just that, but Jane has been doing Christmas shopping, and almost crying.

Before that resumed, they talk hot drinks, disorganised criminals, and ask why is thrush called thrush?

They're also joined by the legend Miriam Margolyes.

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