No Way Out
Welcome to the No Way Out podcast where we examine the variety of domains and disciplines behind John R. Boyd’s OODA sketch and why, today, more than ever, it is an imperative to understand Boyd’s axiomatic sketch of how organisms, individuals, teams, corporations, and governments comprehend, shape, and adapt in our VUCA world.
- Update frequency
- every 6 days
- Average duration
- 73 minutes
- Episodes
- 124
- Years Active
- 2023 - 2025
AI’s D&C Cycles Accelerate: Harmonizing Agents and The Big 'O’rientation with Mahault Albarracin, PhD
What if we've been thinking about AI all wrong? What if endless scaling isn't the answer, but instead we need systems that understand context, embody knowledge, and grasp causal relatio…
Human-Agent Team of Teams: Active Inference AI & The Spatial Web w/ Dr. David Bray and Denise Holt
The technological paradigm we've grown accustomed to—with centralized AI models hallucinating answers and requiring massive energy consumption—is about to undergo a profound transformat…
Outmaneuver Complexity: AI Gold Rush 2.0 & Adaptive Capacity with David Woods, PhD
What happens when our increasingly interconnected systems face unexpected challenges? Dr. David Woods, pioneer of resilience engineering, explores how organizations can build the adapti…
Reorienting Safety: Human and Organizational Performance (HOP) with Todd Conklin
The gap between how work is imagined and how work actually happens sits at the heart of our most persistent safety challenges. In this illuminating conversation with Professor Todd Conk…
From Big Bang to Brain: How Entropy Shapes Safety and Systems with David Slater, PhD
Step into the fascinating world where neuroscience meets safety in this mind-expanding conversation with Professor David Slater. Beyond conventional safety thinking, we explore how our …
Pre-Event Indicators: Staying Left of Bang With Patrick Van Horne
What if you could see disruption coming before it hits? The concept of "Left of Bang" transforms how we understand threat detection and strategic advantage—not just in combat zones, but…
Learning War, Winning in the Age of AI: Lessons in Adaptive Strategy with Trent Hone
What can today's organizations learn from the US Navy's approach to innovation during the rapid technological changes of the 1920s, 30s, and 40s? Trent Hone reveals how naval leadership…
Drones, Airspace, AI, and Decision Making: DroneUp CEO on Leading in Complexity
When Tom Walker walked into a Best Buy and saw drone technology more advanced than the space shuttle selling for under $1,000, he knew aerial autonomous systems would fundamentally chan…
Top Gun Day Special: The Four Ps of OODA
In this electrifying No Way Out podcast episode, recorded on May 13, 2025—Top Gun Day—hosts Brian "Ponch" Rivera and Mark "Moose" McGrath dive into John Boyd’s OODA Loop through the "Fo…
The Elk Hunter's Journey: Leadership, Adaptability, and Self-Discovery in the Wild with Gilbert Ornelas and Joe Giglia
This episode explores the profound life lessons derived from elk hunting, emphasizing adaptability, decision-making, and self-awareness. Joe and Gilbert from the Elk Brothers discuss ho…
From Cockpit to OR: Surgical Precision and Team Performance With Dr. Matt Cooper
Dr. Cooper drops jaw-dropping tales: defying an anesthesia chief with "he’s not dead till I say he’s dead" to save a bleeding patient (still alive years later), or dodging disaster at 5…
Alan Green and The America Codes: We Are One (No Way Out Ep. 113)
Dive into an electrifying episode of No Way Out that will leave you questioning everything you thought you knew about America’s founding—and the very fabric of reality itself. Host Ponc…
Boyd's Real OODA Loop: Deconstructing TEoWL with Chet Richards
John Boyd's OODA loop is widely misunderstood. In this illuminating conversation with Chet Richards – a close colleague of Boyd who received the original OODA loop sketch in the mail – …
Navigating Complexity: Patterns, Entropy, and the OODA Loop with John Bicknell
Ever wondered how to surf the disorder of a complex world? In this electrifying episode of the No Way Out Podcast, we dive deep with John Bicknell, a retired Marine and complexity scien…
From Empire to Einheit: Hegseth’s Reform Challenge with Don Vandergriff
In this eye-opening conversation with military reform expert Don Vandergriff, we dive deep into one of the most pressing yet overlooked issues facing America's armed forces: the bloated…
Digital Guerrilla Warfare: Deception in the Cyber Age with Tim Pappa
Step into the shadowy world of cyber warfare with No Way Out, where episode co-host Steven McCrone joins cybersecurity expert Tim Pappa to unravel the cutting-edge tactics reshaping dig…
The Wayback Mission: Mark Graham on Preserving the Past with the Internet Archive
Unlock the secrets of the past and secure the future with No Way Out! Hosts Moose and Ponch dive into the digital frontier with Mark Graham, a veteran of the U.S. Air Force and a key fi…
Championing Change: Diversity, Inclusion, and Leadership in the Navy with Theresa Carpenter
Theresa Carpenter joins us to discuss her remarkable journey of advocacy and service, revealing the intricate dance between personal beliefs and military protocols. Theresa’s transparen…
From Battlefields to Boardrooms: Leadership Lessons from Vietnam to Modern Business with Bing West
Join us on a fascinating exploration with Bing, a Marine Corps veteran whose journey takes us from his Irish Catholic roots in Boston to the battlefields of Vietnam. Bing shares compell…
From Battlefield to Pen: Military Insights, Strategy, and Creative Transformation with Austin Caroe
Ever wondered how an officer's journey from the battlefield to the world of writing could unfold? Our guest Austin Caroe unravels his transition from military service to becoming a writ…