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Day 5: Moving Through The “Messy Middle” (Without Losing Your Mind) with Amie McNee

Author
Arnoland, Inc
Published
Fri 27 Jun 2025
Episode Link
https://redcircle.com/shows/b2360b1e-483d-4b08-a44b-5ff11d6a8e3d/episodes/fb7194ed-bbf3-4f29-91bb-aa00cb6cba9d

*This conversation contains a significant amount of explicit language. Rather than bleeping everything out or editorializing, I preferred to share the raw, authentic version because we're all feeling all the feelings right now. And I didn't want to restrict our process in any way. Listener's discretion is advised.

Amie McNee is an author, artist and speaker dedicated to helping creatives build meaningful and fulfilling lives. McNee empowers people to challenge the narratives that hold them back and embrace the messy, magical process of creation. McNee’s books and speaking inspire thousands to break free from perfectionism, self-doubt and the belief that creative work isn’t “real work.”

Her nonfiction book, We Need Your Art, is a manifesto for the creative spirit in a world that undervalues artistry. She is also the author of historical fiction that explores the complexities of creativity, resistance and rebellion through vivid storytelling. Through her writing, podcast Unpublished and speaking engagements, McNee champions a life that is driven by vulnerability, purpose and unapologetic creative ambition.

Amie's TEDx Talk → "The Case For Making Art When the World Is On Fire"


INTERVIEW HIGHLIGHTS:

  • Why art matters more than ever in a world on fire.
  • Vulnerability in creative work, especially for men amid hustle culture and stoicism
  • How language shapes owning your art and creative identity
  • Why too much time can be a Kryptonite for creatives and how setting restrictions creates space for making “shitty art”
  • The struggle of being your own boss and the two essential things creatives must do to avoid burnout
  • The power of being seen by another creative to reignite self-trust amid exhaustion
  • Society’s myths about creatives and reclaiming the truth that art is essential
  • Why now is the most important time to make art in a world flooded with AI perfection
  • Why embracing mediocrity matters in a world obsessed with perfection.
  • How setting boundaries allow mindful content consumption without hijacking creativity
  • Creativity’s power to foster self-reflection and healing
  • Why introvert fatigue is real and how to honor it without burning bridges or yourself
  • A gentle path back to creativity through Amie’s “2 Week Reset”
  • The soapbox moment every artist needs to hear


RESOURCES:

Amie’s Instagram | Substack

Amie’s Book: We Need Your Art

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