Is government wrong in the way it attempts to reach out to young people? Does it work against its own interest when it tries to "have a talk" or come to terms with millennials? Is "millennials" maybe a bad or condescending word? Increasingly, people are saying yes to all three, and that it's high time we overhaul the conversation. On this episode we talk with observers including a generations expert, a national-level local government group and a "millennial mayor" to explore what we can do differently than generically label 20- to 30-year-olds as a disengaged enigma more interested in wasting money on ukeleles than saving up for homes and retirement. Matt Thornhill - ELGL - Mayor Ian Baltutis - "Wall Street Journal admits to 'millennials misstep'" - "I Have to Ask You: Is Local Government Inviting to Young Professionals?" - "Millennials are more than 4 times more likely to do this at their desk than baby boomers" - To Measure the 'Uber Effect,' Cities Get Creative - Politico, "Mayors to Young America: Can We Talk?" -