#167 | Grief, Identity, and LGBTQ Courage: From the Creators of the new series ‘What About Me?’

Have you ever felt like no one talks about what it really means to grieve as a queer person or as someone who loves one?

In today’s heartfelt episode, Heather Hester sits down with Josh Nagler and Sam Wasserman, the creative minds behind What About Me, a new series born from the raw, unfiltered experience of sibling grief and queer identity. Whether you're a parent, ally, or part of the LGBTQ+ community, their story sheds light on what it means to hold space for both loss and visibility, especially when the world wants things tidy.

• Hear how Josh and Sam turned a deeply personal tragedy into powerful queer storytelling.
• Learn why humor and heartbreak must coexist, and how that shows up in their creative process.
• Gain a deeper understanding of the complexities of grief, especially for LGBTQ+ people navigating family dynamics and identity.

Press play now to hear an unforgettable conversation that will challenge what you thought you knew about grief, queerness, and the healing power of art.

Notable Quotes:

• “Mourning comes from a place of love - ultimately, it’s a reflection of what was beautiful and meaningful.” – Josh
• “Being gay isn’t the most interesting thing about someone. Grief, family, love - they’re all part of the bigger story.” – Josh
• “This was never just about a show; it was about healing, about sharing, about turning something so personal into something universal.” – Sam

Where to Watch the Series:

Watch What About Me? on YouTube.

Watch all six episodes and learn more at wamtheseries.com.

Follow them on Instagram and TikTok @wamtheseries.

Connect with Josh and Sam:

👉 Instagram: @wamtheseries

👉 TikTok: @wamtheseries

👉 Website: wamtheseries.com

Support Queer Independent Art:

As Josh and Sam so beautifully shared, supporting queer independent art means creating space for real, messy, and vital stories to be told. If you’re moved by this episode, consider sharing their work, donating to support indie artists, or simply starting a conversation about the power of grief and healing.

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More Human. More Kind. formerly Just Breathe: Parenting Your LGBTQ Teen explores connection, courage, and community for every concerned parent, mom, or ally navigating fear, grief, and bigotry with hope, resilience, and empathy. Through open-minded education, inclusive parenting guidance, and advocacy for mental health, safety, and a human first approach, we support LGBTQ youth and stand for human rights and social justice. More Human. More Kind. empowers listeners to shift their mindset, embrace activism and allyship, and lead with kindness, healing, and purpose.