Episode 13: How to Be a Hot Mess with Dr. Jeremy Tyler

We know perfection isn't possible, so why do we chase it? Dr. Jeremy Tyler joins Thea and Kate in a discussion about the trap of perfectionism, how to recognize when we are harming ourselves and our relationships by striving towards unreal standards, and why failing can actually be a pretty good thing (especially when you're belting out Kelly Clarkson songs on karaoke night). This imperfect episode features a blooper real if you hang on--or fast-forward, I guess, but why would you do that--to the end.