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Ep 398: You Can't Optimize Despair

Author
Kevin Oakley: New Home Marketing from Do You Convert
Published
Thu 31 Jul 2025
Episode Link
https://www.doyouconvert.com/blog/ep-398-you-cant-optimize-despair/

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Julie Jarnagin joins Beth Russell and Jackie Lipinski to talk through burnout, delegation, and the invisible work that keeps marketers stuck. This episode isn’t about perfection; it’s about momentum. And it’s a lifeline for anyone trying to hold it all together with too little time and too few resources.

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