GVRNZ, Simran & Halima discuss the recent Supreme Court decision to not allow Shamima Begum to return to the UK to fight her British citizenship case. They also talk about the confirmed roadmap out of lockdown, whether we should be getting our hopes up so soon, and what plans they have for post-lockdown life. We finish the episode with an interview carried out by Sakshi Karanjkar with Arji Manuelpillai, a poet, performer and education artist. They discuss his past in hip-hop and transition to poetry, his work with refugees, the problematic way in which poetry is covered in British education, the problem with a lack of South Asian representation in school literature and more.