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Making Strides

‘Making Strides’ is a space to share the experiences of underrepresented and marginalized communities in the sport of running. Join Stefanie Flippin and Carolyn Su in discussions on navigating microaggressions and policing, sponsorship negotiations, mental health, current events, and more.

We hope this podcast serves to fill in the gaps of what might not typically be covered in running industry media, and we hope that through our conversations here, we can be a safe space for learning and a launching pad for making the sport more equitable and inclusive for everyone.

Sports Running
Update frequency
every 29 days
Average duration
68 minutes
Episodes
23
Years Active
2023 - 2025
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Episode 23 - The Great Power of Representation

Episode 23 - The Great Power of Representation

“I think the experience I had is what EVERY straight, white male has at EVERY race.” 

Consider this convo as a part-two follow up to our most listened-to episode, "Allyship, Intention, and Impact" (ep…

01:12:07  |   Fri 18 Jul 2025
Episode 22 - LIVE from the We Out Here Trail Fest!

Episode 22 - LIVE from the We Out Here Trail Fest!

We hope that this trail race shows that it is possible to welcome new people to the sport, that trail running doesn't have to be rooted in white culture, that we can show up as our authentic selves.…

00:46:32  |   Tue 24 Jun 2025
Episode 21 - Boston and Beyond!

Episode 21 - Boston and Beyond!

Fresh off the Boston Marathon weekend, we talk about EVERYTHING that happened from Thursday to Marathon Monday, including seeing Kara Goucher and Alysia Montaño, fawning over senior penguins, and get…

01:37:35  |   Wed 14 May 2025
Episode 20 - Where Do We Go From Here? (part 2)

Episode 20 - Where Do We Go From Here? (part 2)

“We are teaching and showing the next generation that our democracy is important and that it is worth fighting for.”


In this episode, we wrestle with how to continue carrying on in running and racing,…

00:57:23  |   Tue 29 Apr 2025
Episode 19 - Where Do We Go From Here? (part 1)

Episode 19 - Where Do We Go From Here? (part 1)

“This is bigger than democrat or republican; we’re all connected. This is about taking care of each other and about the promises we’ve made to each other.”


This was an emotionally heavy episode, thoug…

01:19:19  |   Sat 12 Apr 2025
Episode 18 - Happy Women's History Month!

Episode 18 - Happy Women's History Month!

“As someone who grew up in a time when girls were pitted against each other and seen as competition, I love that we’re in this era where, just being in each other’s corners is celebrated!”


This is the…

00:53:07  |   Mon 31 Mar 2025
Episode 17 - Running and Defiance

Episode 17 - Running and Defiance

“We want to believe that, when seeing harm being done, we will rise to the level of our expectations, but the reality is, most of us will fall to the level of our training.” - Stefanie


In this episode…

01:01:20  |   Fri 07 Mar 2025
Episode 16 - Values and Representation

Episode 16 - Values and Representation

Staying true to our commitment to record more episodes this year, we hop back on after the Lunar New Year to discuss a variety of topics, ranging from 2025 being Stef’s lucky year, to how Jesse Eisen…

01:05:28  |   Thu 20 Feb 2025
Episode 15 - The Everything, Everywhere Episode

Episode 15 - The Everything, Everywhere Episode

Hello, 2025! In this episode, we catch up with each other after the holiday season, and we also discover how we are both in a similar season, in regards to our relationship with running social media.…

01:26:20  |   Sat 01 Feb 2025
Episode 14 - All Things NYC Marathon Weekend!

Episode 14 - All Things NYC Marathon Weekend!

A little overdue, but it’s here: the recap (or…post mortem?!) of everything surrounding this year’s New York City Marathon weekend! 


Stef and Carolyn breakdown the course experience ‘chunk by chunk’…

01:52:16  |   Tue 03 Dec 2024
Episode 13 - Confidence vs Comparison

Episode 13 - Confidence vs Comparison

Hello again, everyone! We’re back after a brief break for the summer, and, just like the quick turn into the Fall season, we get right back into racing!


In this episode, we talk about some big wins …

01:17:56  |   Fri 25 Oct 2024
Episode 12 - Allyship, Intention and Impact

Episode 12 - Allyship, Intention and Impact

A recent article on irunfar.com made quite a splash, when the [white] authors called for feedback on the new 'progressive' initiatives launched by the Pro Trail Runners Association, and BIPOC women a…

01:07:41  |   Mon 08 Jul 2024
Episode 11 - The Venn Diagram Overlap

Episode 11 - The Venn Diagram Overlap

Stef and I get more into our different experiences growing up as Asian Americans — like how I felt like I was constantly straddling two separate worlds and identities, while Stef moved about not ackn…

01:05:55  |   Thu 27 Jun 2024
Episode 10 - LIVE from the Boston Marathon!

Episode 10 - LIVE from the Boston Marathon!

Buckle up! You're gonna wanna take notes, because in this convo, Stef and Carolyn talk with the indomitable Kayla Jeter and Charlie Dark!


This episode was recorded live, from The View Boston, durin…

01:35:09  |   Mon 20 May 2024
Episode 9 - LIVE from lululemon Further Ultramarathon!

Episode 9 - LIVE from lululemon Further Ultramarathon!

Out in the desert of Palm Springs, CA, a team of ten women set out on a 6-day, ultramarathon, with the goal of breaking world records and going "Further" than any team of women had gone before: enter…

01:25:14  |   Mon 13 May 2024
Episode 8 - Baking In Diversity, Equity, Inclusion and Belonging

Episode 8 - Baking In Diversity, Equity, Inclusion and Belonging

How do you pull a seat up at the Table, when the Table has historically been an unsafe and unwelcome place for you?


Join us in another episode of the #MakingStridesPod, where we dive into the convo …

00:52:30  |   Thu 29 Feb 2024
Episode 7 - Having Peace with our Pace

Episode 7 - Having Peace with our Pace

“Not everything that counts can be counted.” Carolyn and Stef are back! The first episode of the year includes a lot of reflections on 2023, both personally and professionally, as well as the plan an…

00:42:49  |   Tue 06 Feb 2024
Episode 6 - The Invisible Load We Carry

Episode 6 - The Invisible Load We Carry

Carolyn and Stef talk about bearing the impact and invisible load of microaggressions and discrimination, both in running and in life. Is it fair? How to we protect our peace while continuing to show…

01:03:22  |   Thu 12 Oct 2023
Episode 5: Barriers to Entry

Episode 5: Barriers to Entry

“Even the decision to train for a race is a privilege itself.”

Episode 5 of the #MakingStridesPod, ‘Barriers to Entry,’ drops today!

In this episode, Stef and I get into how participating in a trail …

00:50:56  |   Thu 03 Aug 2023
Episode 4: De-Centering White Comfort

Episode 4: De-Centering White Comfort

“Until the aftermath of 2020, I felt a sense of embarrassment, sharing some of the [racist] experiences that I’ve had, and I think it stems from the fact that I didn’t want my close friends — who are…

00:48:24  |   Tue 20 Jun 2023
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