Mandy Smith is a pastor, author and speaker who, after living and ministering in the US and UK, now ministers in her homeland of Australia. She is a cohort co-leader for the Eugene Peterson Center for Christian Imagination.
Her latest book, and the topic of this conversation, is Confessions of an Amateur Saint. Available here. https://www.navpress.com/p/confessions-of-an-amateur-saint/9781641588379
On a related note, check out this wonderful essay by Andy Kadzban, the pastor of Wyckoff Reformed Church. "Pastoring in a Secular Age: Confessions of a Recovering Deist"