Matt Kerner is the drummer of the Chicago-based math rock band Origami Button. In this episode, Matt shares his love for bands like Incubus and Deftones, how high levels of fandom can be rewarding, utilizing your influences, making the distinction between music as a passion and career, the origin of Origami Button and the source of the band's longevity which has led them to exciting support slots with scene legends like The Fall of Troy and The Used.