014: [FEAR JOURNEY] I am part of the problem with J.R. Sauder

“I remember, so vividly, sitting on the floor in his office by the radiator and just being like, ‘Are we gonna be okay?’ And I knew he didn't know the answer in the short term. I think we always believed in us, long-term, like, we kinda knew we'd figure it out.” - Tiffany 

To celebrate sixteen years of marriage, J.R. joins Tiffany in reflecting on their relationship and the story of building a life together. As you can imagine, fear has played a role every step along the way. 

In this episode, you’ll hear their individual dynamics, how they have learned from each other and what it looks like to have a two-career home while keeping family at the center.