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Let's Talk About Sects

Let's Talk About Sects is an award-winning monthly podcast focusing on a different cult each episode. Sarah takes a storytelling, deep dive approach, looking at the history of a sect's leaders, the recruitment of members, their experiences, psychological aspects, and notable incidents during its existence.

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“A fascinating and well-researched look into cults and the charismatic leaders behind them.” Peter Wells, The Sydney Morning Herald

“A fantastic examination of sects, cults, and religion… a fact-based program that’ll hook you in and keep you coming back for more.” Zach Johnston, Uproxx

“Cleverly named, meticulously researched.” Elena Nicolaou, Refinery29

“The best podcast of its kind – I can’t wait for another episode!” Apple Podcasts review from a US listener

“I study cults and sects and for this reason listen to many podcasts on these subjects. This one is by far the best.” Apple Podcasts review from a US listener

“Best podcast about cults I’ve found.” Apple Podcasts review from an Australian listener


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Update frequency
every 22 days
Average duration
63 minutes
Episodes
105
Years Active
2017 - 2025
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The Collective: Dark Squares with Danny Rensch

The Collective: Dark Squares with Danny Rensch

Danny Rensch grew up in the Church of Immortal Consciousness, a cult he usually refers to as ‘the Collective’. Started by Steven and Trina Kamp, the group followed the teachings of a Dr Pahlvon Duran…

01:26:52  |   Tue 02 Sep 2025
Conspiracy Theories, Cults, and Crimes

Conspiracy Theories, Cults, and Crimes

From Jonestown to Heaven’s Gate, to the Octopus Murders and the Waco Siege, the world is full of deception, manipulation, and destruction. Listen to Conspiracy Theories, Cults, and Crimes every Wedne…

00:07:57  |   Wed 13 Aug 2025
Interview Episode: Fynn's time with the Logos Foundation

Interview Episode: Fynn's time with the Logos Foundation

The Logos Foundation was often described as ‘mysterious’ in media coverage, but became a part of the religious right that published full page newspaper advertisements encouraging the electorate to vo…

00:43:02  |   Tue 29 Jul 2025
Interview Episode: Clare Heath-McIvor

Interview Episode: Clare Heath-McIvor

Clare Heath-McIvor is the daughter of the leader of the City Builders Church, an organisation that she and others who know it feel confident fits the definition of a cult. Her marriage was arranged w…

01:23:34  |   Tue 01 Jul 2025
Cult Bride & Providence/JMS with Liz Cameron

Cult Bride & Providence/JMS with Liz Cameron

In 2011, an 18-year-old Liz Cameron joined a Bible study group she only knew as ‘Sarang Church’. Over the coming months, she lost more and more of her life and identity to the group that eventually r…

01:27:11  |   Tue 03 Jun 2025
Interview Episode: Victorian Inquiry into Cults with Ryan & Catherine Carey

Interview Episode: Victorian Inquiry into Cults with Ryan & Catherine Carey

The Parliament of Victoria has launched an Inquiry into the recruitment methods and impacts of cults and organised fringe groups, which is open for submissions until 31 July 2025. If you or anyone yo…

00:55:57  |   Tue 20 May 2025
Falun Gong

Falun Gong

Falun Gong is familiar to many as a spiritual exercise movement, and a sect that has been persecuted by the People’s Republic of China. In Sydney you'll often see practitioners demonstrating by Town …

01:11:51  |   Tue 22 Apr 2025
Children in Scientology with Mirriam Francis

Children in Scientology with Mirriam Francis

In the wake of updates to Child Safety Standards emerging from Australia’s Royal Commission into Institutional Responses to Child Sexual Abuse, Mirriam Francis wrote to Victoria’s Commission for Chil…

01:11:03  |   Tue 08 Apr 2025
SGAs with Maria Esguerra

SGAs with Maria Esguerra

Maria Esguerra escaped the Children of God at the age of 22 with her two children who have disabilities. Maria’s firsthand experience drives her passion to support fellow survivors of cults and insti…

01:21:02  |   Tue 01 Apr 2025
Interview Episode: An Everyday Cult with Gerette Buglion

Interview Episode: An Everyday Cult with Gerette Buglion

Gerette Buglion holds a B.A. in Elementary Education and Special Education, and earned her ‘Master's Degree’ in cult awareness education from the school of life. She emerged from her 18-year cult ody…

00:57:22  |   Tue 25 Mar 2025
Interview Episode: The Community of Jesus

Interview Episode: The Community of Jesus

Ewan Whyte's feature essay, ‘The Cult That Raised Me’ – about the United States based Community of Jesus and Grenville Christian College – includes the introduction, “When I was 11, my parents sent m…

00:50:00  |   Tue 18 Mar 2025
ISKCON / Hare Krishnas – Part 2

ISKCON / Hare Krishnas – Part 2

When asked about the Hare Krishnas, most people will conjure images of dancing, chanting people with colourful robes and joyful dispositions. Members of the general public, whom Hare Krishnas refer t…

00:46:51  |   Tue 18 Feb 2025
ISKCON / Hare Krishnas – Part 1

ISKCON / Hare Krishnas – Part 1

When asked about the Hare Krishnas, most people will conjure images of dancing, chanting people with colourful robes and joyful dispositions. Members of the general public, whom Hare Krishnas refer t…

00:37:02  |   Tue 11 Feb 2025
Interview Episode: Two by Twos Update

Interview Episode: Two by Twos Update

Let’s Talk About Sects did a deep dive episode about the Two by Twos, also known as The Truth, in October 2020. In the years since we recorded, huge numbers of followers in the USA in particular have…

01:28:27  |   Thu 06 Feb 2025
Interview Episode: Geelong Revival Centre with Richard Baker

Interview Episode: Geelong Revival Centre with Richard Baker

Richard Baker's Pray Harder podcast for LiSTNR's Secrets We Keep series delves into the world of the Geelong Revival Centre, which Richard describes as “one of Australia’s most extreme” Pentecostal c…

00:44:08  |   Tue 07 Jan 2025
The Jesus Christians – Part 2

The Jesus Christians – Part 2

In Melbourne you might have picked up a book or a comic from a Jesus Christian outside Flinders Street Station, or you could have seen their religious graffiti messages along Sydney’s railway lines. …

00:52:47  |   Tue 24 Dec 2024
The Jesus Christians – Part 1

The Jesus Christians – Part 1

The media coverage of the Jesus Christians tends to outweigh their size. Most people who have heard of them recognise the name ‘The Kidney Cult’, derived from an initiative where numerous members hav…

00:46:53  |   Tue 17 Dec 2024
Bonus Episode: A New Media Narrative at Decult

Bonus Episode: A New Media Narrative at Decult

Sarah moderated a panel discussion at the recent Decult conference in Christchurch, New Zealand, entitled 'A new media narrative: Survivor-focussed cult reporting'. The panel featured MISA survivor B…

01:01:05  |   Tue 03 Dec 2024
The Revival Fellowship

The Revival Fellowship

The Revival Fellowship is a Pentecostal Australian sect that believes in Bible Numerics, a thoroughly debunked theory about numerical patterns found within the Bible. It also teaches British Israelis…

01:07:36  |   Tue 19 Nov 2024
Running River: the Divine Madness School

Running River: the Divine Madness School

AJ was sent to the Running River school in around 2007, to attend kindergarten when she was five or six years old. The school was headed up by longtime Divine Madness community member Nancy Monson, a…

01:05:04  |   Tue 08 Oct 2024
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